Luna Moon

just as say before , this is not certain measurable test . kossai is not very good at how to word musical tropes and techniques , but through musicians that feel confident to label as machine gen - with basis of presence and history - try to learn some possible flags of identification in non-vocal music .

one of most obvious in that post , which might as well just copy and paste here :
song names seem to mean nothing .
this will be kind of subjective , different people take different words in different directions , but musicians of particular style usually have some kinds of tropes for particular words . if twinkle do not twinkle and jazz do not jazz , real person might not have creative control here .

some other ones which notice :
songs start , continue , or cut off suddenly - even mid-phrase .
might reach phrase that feel like natural point to stop , only for song to just ... continue . other times , feel like song did not properly finish , but just suddenly over . occasionally , will even notice songs where last notes just cut off outright . this can happen with start of songs too , just jump right into highest energy without any buildup or moments of quiet . which bring to continuation :

songs lack payoff and satisfaction .
these songs meander - might sound superficially epic and grandiose , high energy and fun , or so on , but hard to pinpoint key moments , motifs , or any consistent musical language . this can make songs feel forgettable , even moment to moment - sound more like exist just to play in background , where never pay any real attention to technique or sound , hence why say brain popcorn vibes . similar to corporate mysic in that way , actually .

bear in mind of course , to some extent these things can also happen among musicians who :
struggle with technique or software ,
have no formal knowledge in given cultural music theory ,
try to work through burnout or time crunch ,
work under specific restrictive formula ,
or explicitly experiment and improvise .

definitely look out for history and presence before assume anything for sure . would say if ever want to dig in , kossai is confident anything under name of bruce alan marcom is machine gen , and probably also fairycorn records .

last time , talk about bruce alan marcom . but this one might be more interest !

so here is thing - recently come across elowen fae , which link to the soul of wind ... as do many other apparent musicians . this perplex kossai . of those musicians , some do seem to be legitimate people with legitimate history , namely bigricepiano and tsuyun . but many others lack any history or presence elsewhere , and not older than 2023 - which coincide with release of suno .

the soul of wind main channel seem to have history back to 2014 , as channel where create ambient mixes of either personal compositions , or royalty free music that already exist . but more recently , this channel claim to be music label - did try to look on wayback machine to see if this ever change , but can not get to load , so that will have to be bust for now .

what really stump is that unsure who make this channel , and thus , what this situation is .
did this composer get burnout with this stream of uploads , and hide machine gen works behind false names ?
do this composer not care who contribute to label , even while others like bigricepiano proud to label work as no AI ?
is this composer even still on board anymore , or do this name belong to someone else now ?
could all of these people be genuine , legitimate musicians , even when just happen to appear like machine gen ? ( hahahahaha . )

still not really sure how to consistently identify machine gen music by sound - sort of just look for " brain popcorn vibes " at moment , but just vibes can not be hard and fast rule . but , do have another post on red flags with regards to channel history and presentation .